[Icehouse] Forum v List

David Artman david.artman at gmail.com
Fri Mar 7 12:03:31 EST 2008


Yeah, I'm too bitter, I know. But repetition without the mere courtesy of
comprehension becomes very frustrating, over the years. That's what I mean
about "blind" and "ignorant" regarding conservativeness. Most objectors (a)
don't know they're objecting to a non-issue and (b) refuse to acknowledge it
when it's pointed out to them.

I'd show you a screen shot of where, exactly, on Google Groups you'd set
your subscription to E-mail, but I can't attach anything to this list. Any
link I'd send won't work (being personalized and, thus, requiring you to
know my login info). Wait a sec...
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46605

There ya go: three clicks to make a Google Group behave like a listserv but
with rich text content capabilities (cue complaints about "I want only
fixed-width plain text EVAR!"). Yahoo Groups does the same (but you can't
control the footer, if that's an issue for ya).

In general, I am not as impressed with the new forum site, mainly because
it's only a forum. If folks got really integrated into a groupware site, we
could manage a lot of meet-ups and such (Calendar) and provide a repository
for various play aids (Files, Pages) and even look to moving the wiki(s)
into it (Pages). Of course, ya also got Google Docs, so the IGDC stuff is
easier to distribute (spreadsheets, DOC compilations of submissions). And
there's the Member pages (not to mention Goggle Profiles) to put all sort of
User info--contact, con attendance, etc. My only wish in that GG supported
full forum features (Categories, Polls) rather than treat it like Gmail
(every topic is a "forum", you roll your own "categories" individually, per
personal preference).

Basically, one Google Group could replace all of these listservs, both
wikis, my own hosting space (used to distribute IGDC PDFs), and other game
designers' hosting space (who seem to want the security of self-hosting
rather than wiki; they could do so with Google Docs Published with no
Sharing).

Web 2.0... it's fascinating. Listservs are pre-web, for goodness sake (Web
0.0)!
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