[Icehouse] IGDC Winter 2008 is ready for announcement tomorrow!

[Jorge Arroyo]

That was totally unnecessary. I don't want to organize the competition. What
is wrong with a little discussion? I (and probably most of the people on the
list) appreciate the time and effort you put on the competition, but that
doesn't mean we have to agree to everything. Discussing and deciding as a
community should be perfectly ok.

As for the accusations, let me remind you of what you wrote to the list:

...Are you hoping to submit Mundialito for the IGDC, even though it's
> old and already heavily tested by those who participated in the 2007
> Ciutat de Granollers de Creación de Juegos? If so, that's sort of... I
> dunno... greedy? I mean, that game has had its testing and judging; it's
> been noticed and refined; can't you come up with something new (or, at
> the least, let others have a shot with newer, less-refined games)?


First, you imply I created the game which I didn't.


... And while we're speaking of Mundialito, it would have been nice if
> the shots at this site showed actual Martian Coasters; the Looneys could
> use the sales... and you also provide PDFs that basically keep someone
> from ever having to buy any Treehouse sets or MCs to play it or any
> other game that uses them. *sigh*
> http://www.labsk.net/index.php?topic=4157.msg35364#msg35364
> http://icehousegames.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mundialito#External_Links
>
> So, Mundialito does not actually "promote the sale of a second set to a
> new adopter," (never mind that its downloads actually *suppress* sales)
> so it doesn't qualify.



Then you accuse me of suppressing sales for the Loonies because I provide
PDFs. First: I don't provide PDFs and I didn't make the game Second: The
website you accuse, has actually managed to popularize Icehouse in Spain so
that it's actually sold on game shops.

-Jorge



On 11/10/07, David Artman <david at davidartman.com> wrote:
>
> Jorge, I have a better solution than your poll (which, FWIW, is trying
> to trump an already-conducted poll):
>
> Congratulations! You're the new IGDC Coordinator. I will e-mail you the
> IGDC.Coordinator at gmail.com password (change it please) and you can vet
> or not whatever you want. You'll want a way to make a PDF of all the
> games once submitted--it seems like folks liked that--and host it on the
> Google Docs sub-site of the IGDC account. The instructions on the IGDC
> page are fairly clear about how to "migrate" to the next competition
> when you announce on the first day of Summer.
>
> And just to remind you... I never "accused" you of anything; I asked.
> Re-read the post: all question marks. I know that doesn't help your
> claims of being aggrieved, but it's the facts. I don't feel obliged to
> apologize for asking questions.
>
> Brian, you may rest assured... the "David Artman Game Design Contest"
> shall never again be a "risk" to this community.
>
> ...In closing... anyone else here (besides me) stop to think that this
> whole spinning gyre might end up totally irrelevant, that there might
> not even be an "invalid" submission (or that my suggestion to appeal to
> the list for clemency would have solve the problem for the few we--err,
> you--may get)?
>
> Nah... easier to just make someone into the villain....
>
> Good luck in the IGDC, everyone;
> David
>
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