[Icehouse] IGDC Winter 2008 is ready for announcement tomorrow!

[Jorge Arroyo]

Ok. As it seems each side has stated their reasons and arguments, I've
started a poll on the wiki. Please, vote and let's see what option the
community as a whole likes better.

http://www.icehousegames.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Icehouse_Game_Design_Competition

Thanks!

-Jorge

On 11/9/07, Jorge Arroyo <trozo at makasoft.net> wrote:
>
> Oops... Brian, I just read all your posts for this discussion because I
> happened to look at my Spam folder and somehow your messages were there...
>
> Let me say that I agree with you. We were not talking about any specific
> game, just hypothetical discussion. I just cited the example of David's game
> because it was the closest at hand. He talked about Mundialito implying it
> was my game and that all I wanted was to submit it, but as I said, it's not
> my game, and this discussion is not about one specific game.
>
> I hope David reconsiders his decision, as there seem to be enough support
> for a modification. It's not too late, as the competition has just started
> and the modification won't affect any games that have been entered
> already...
>
> -Jorge
>
> On 11/9/07, Brian Campbell <lambda at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:39 AM, kerry_and_ryan at att.net wrote:
> >
> > > Brian Campbell:
> > >> Now, I haven't
> > >> actually looked at the rules of whatever the game in question are (is
> >
> > >> there an actual game, or is this all hypthetical? I haven't been
> > >> following the discussion closely enough to have picked that up),
> > >> but I
> > >> really think that if a game makes good use of two Treehouse stashes,
> > >> it should be allowed.
> > >
> > > I'll offer up my own Ice Dao (
> > http://home.att.net/~kerry_and_ryan/IceDao.html<http://home.att.net/%7Ekerry_and_ryan/IceDao.html>
> > > ) as a strawman.  It's a two-player game where each player uses one
> > > large, one medium and two smalls.  The easiest way would be to have
> > > all of a player's pieces be the same color, and that requires 2
> > > Treehouse sets to get the requisite number of smalls (and that's how
> > > the rules are written).  But the game could easily be played with a
> > > single Treehouse set as red&yellow versus blue&green.
> > >
> > > As I think I've mentioned before, I wouldn't mind seeing such an
> > > entry in this competition, but I would rate it at least a little
> > > lower just because it isn't "solidly" a 2HOUSE game.  I could see
> > > other judges rating it as either perfectly 2HOUSE or perfectly
> > > non-2HOUSE.  It's a judgment call -- that's what judges are for.
> >
> > Yeah, I think I'd rate this pretty low in a 2HOUSE-restricted
> > competition. I don't think I'd need it to be filtered for me; I can
> > make up my own mind about how well this fits the 2HOUSE design
> > restriction.
> >
> > There are lots of games that can be played with Icehouse pieces that
> > don't really fit the set very well. Heck, even Martian Chess is really
> > one of the least Icehouse-y games I've played, and while I might say
> > it meets the requirements of a design restriction of using 4 monocrome
> > stashes, it really takes no advantage of the 4 monochrome stashes, nor
> > does it take advantage of the stacking, pointing, colors, or
> > distribution of the pieces. On the other hand, RAMbots makes lovely
> > use of 4 monochrome stashes, so would get a higher rating in such a
> > competition even if I liked Martian Chess better.
> >
> > >> If just
> > >> reading the rules you think "meh, I can't see how that game would be
> > >> any good", well, that game probably needs some work. Of course,
> > >> judges
> > >> should always have at least read the rules of any game they rank, but
> >
> > >> I don't think that playing a game should be a requirement for ranking
> > >> it.
> > >
> > > I agree with this as well.  Another criterion a judge might use
> > > during this initial weeding-out is whether _that_particular_judge_
> > > considers each game "a 2HOUSE game."
> >
> > *nod*
> >
> >
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