[Icehouse] A Zendo variant

Kory Heath kory at koryheath.com
Wed Feb 14 04:29:26 EST 2007


Hi Ryan,

I see what you're saying. I think that the new variant will have pretty 
much the effects that you've outlined. However, those are precisely the 
effects I'm shooting for. You worry that the game "breaks down" in the 
end-game, but I don't think that's quite accurate. The end-game will 
function just fine. It sounds like it will have some qualities which (at 
the moment) you don't think you're going to like. That's fair enough. My 
suspicion is that I'm going to like them, but I can't be sure until I 
play it.

I want this variant to generate exactly the situation that you've 
outlined. If I have two guessing stones and am gearing up for a 
guess-barrage, I will have to decide whether to call Mondo to try for a 
third stone (risking my whole stash), call Master and then guess (hoping 
that two stones will be enough), or call Master and hold off on guessing 
until I've done some more testing (hoping that no one else wins in the 
meantime).

Let's push this analysis a bit further. Let's say I have two guessing 
stones, and I'm convinced that I've narrowed down the answer to one of 
three rules. I can do either of the following:

1) Build a koan that all three of my rules would mark in the same way, 
call Mondo on it, and guess according to my rules. That should earn me 
my third stone. If it doesn't, I will lose all my stones. But in that 
case, all three of my rules were incorrect anyway.
2) Build a koan that two of my guesses would mark differently, and call 
Master. The answer will eliminate one of my rules, and I can use my 
other two stones for my other two rules.

Of course, this is a highly idealized situation. I'm almost never really 
sure that I can win with a three-stone guess-barrage. But the less sure 
I am, the more interesting and agonizing the "risky Mondo" decision 
becomes: do I risk all of my stones to gain a third stone, try a barrage 
with just two, or hold off to gather more info? I like these kinds of 
decisions in games. And it's precisely the lack of them in standard 
Zendo which causes people to characterize it (sometimes derisively) as 
"a multiplayer puzzle rather than a game". I don't mind the derision. 
The thing that bothers me is that I sometimes think they might have a point!

Some of Zendo's earliest playtesters argued pretty persuasively that 
Zendo doesn't need this kind of tension, and is in fact harmed by it. 
They may well be correct. But for some reason, every year or two, I feel 
an urge to re-explore the issue. I've never tried opening it up to a 
forum like this, so that's a new experiment. And I'm pretty sure that 
I've never played the exact variant I'm proposing here (which is pretty 
surprising, given how many variants we tried during playtesting).

Incidentally, my intention with this variant has nothing to do with 
speeding up (or slowing down) the game; it just has to do with adding a 
certain type of risk and tension to the game. It's also intended to 
address the fact that, in many games, I end up collecting more guessing 
stones than I can possibly use.

The issue of slowing down the game arose during the discussion of 
eliminating the "Master" call and having every turn be a "Mondo". I 
worried that that this would bog down the game, especially if the entire 
group just keeps abstaining.

-- Kory



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