[Icehouse] Re: Ice Game Design Competition 2007

[Carlton Noles]

I would say derivatives are fair game. Torpedo (a previous winner) was a
variant of light speed (a cheapass games card game) which itself was a
variant of Icehouse.

On 4/16/07, David Artman <david at davidartman.com> wrote:
>
> Fair enough on not making "affordability" or alignment with the current
> LL product line a requirement for the games--though I sincerely hope
> the voters keep that as a strong influence on their rankings.
>
> I agree with Carlton, however, that a theme competition (where theme
> isn't a purely mechanical requirement, like "use Volcano Caps") isn't
> necessarily restrictive or even likely to result in several identical
> games. Many times, the theming will be simply flavor--much like all the
> "Martian" games, for which martianess certainly is not a mechanical
> element. I'd say the more abstracted the theme terms, the more likely
> folks will latch onto them in wild and interesting ways. Also, the Iron
> Game Chef contest typically offers two sets of four terms, and one picks
> which three terms from ONLY ONE of the sets that one will use. (Plus,
> not all Icehouse games are board games.)
>
> As for award logos/graphics, I would just put out a call for submissions
> and then let folks vote on their favorites. I'd recommend keeping them
> around 100px x 100px, so they aren't too obtrusive. Of course, someone
> has to (permanently!) host them, for them to show on the (broken) wiki.
> I'd might be nice to also have a 10px x 10px version of each, for adding
> to links to the games, as opposed to the large graphic, which should
> only be used on the game's main page.
>
> RE: 1 game per person may be entered in each of the two contests - I see
> why you'd want that (avoid spamming fifty lame games, trying to get a
> win), but it also seems less "open." Brian's "voter self-correcting"
> notion will tend to make someone lose, who spams games: voters won't
> slog through five games from one designer, if the first couple are poor
> quality.
>
> RE: entry for the 2nd contest of the year closes prior to announcing the
> winner of the previous contest - That sort of clashes with the idea of
> "can resubmit" for open and themed: how could I know I should resubmit
> if I don't know if I've won or lost, yet? Surely, a game can't *win*
> both contests, right? What were you really wanting from this?
>
> Finally, I wonder if we might consider having more than one
> winner/winning category, for each competition? Have folks rank games in
> the following Awards:
> * Most Fun To Play
> * Most Innovative
> * Best Presentation
> * Grand Champion
>
> We could even have that be the "primaries" folks have proposed, if
> there's a lot of game submissions: only the top two or three in any
> given minor category are considered for the Grand Champion award (which
> involves another round of voting). Of course, that's more icons for
> Award ribbons/stars/logos. :)
>
> So... on to specifics....
>
> WHEN we gonna open submissions?
> WHERE will submissions have to go--wiki, e-mail to organizer, wiki +
> notify organizer, wiki with the [[Category:2007Contest]] tag?
> HOW long between start and end--when does submission acceptance end and
> voting begin?
> WHAT are admissible games--I am curious if a derivative game would be
> admitted, like Ikkozendo?
>
> Thanks, all;
> David
>
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