[Icehouse] Ice Game Design Competition 2007
Carlton Noles
carlton.noles at gmail.com
Mon Apr 16 10:13:45 EDT 2007
hmmm....I had thought about taking over in the past but held back largely
due to the fact that I had intended to enter. I too am in agreement with
much of what I read here. The prizes I could take or leave. I would love to
win a crystal case set, but I would be very happy to be able to attach the
tag "award winning" to my game and "award winning game designer" to my name.
I would like to point out a few things about the past competition to
consider. Entry in it was restricted to only unpublished games. Publication
on Slick, or the Wiki would not disqualify a game but commercial publication
would (as in a commercial release of the game or perhaps publishing in a
magazine like 'Games'. Previously entered games would not qualify unless
significantly changed. So you can't just keep entering the same game hoping
for weaker competition. The ballot was open to all who entered which I still
think is a good idea. If there are so many entries we need to pare it down
then some form of primary system is called for. If a committee is choosing
who or what gets on the ballot then we are right back to the issues recently
discussed about the wiki. I think somewhere in the neighborhood of ten or so
should be fine for the ballot (perhaps more considering the lower frequency
of the competitions). The last major point I recall was for voting the
previous competition used a ranking system for voting. and the ultimate
decision wasn't on just wh got the most first place votes. I will see if I
can dig up some emails on the previous voting system as I recall there was
some discussion about it. No t that it must still be used but I think it is
worth considering.
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On 4/16/07, James Hazelton <jameshazelton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm glad that someone is able to take up this responsibility. I think it
> is important to have an individual by name who can head up a project and be
> accountable. That said, I also think it would be a good idea to have a small
> cabal of associates who also have access to voting records, to head off
> termination and even delay. Were such a cabal to be formed, I hope my name
> is considered.
>
> Brian, you make a lot of good points; while I disagree on some points, it
> looks like we are on the same page for most things.
>
> 1. Things from the old competition should be cleared up, but if we are
> going to have two formats this time around (see below), it would be overkill
> to redo the last competition as well. Certainly it is only fair to allow the
> games to compete. You might go so far as to guaranteeing a spot on the
> ballot for those games (this is assuming that there would be a primary to
> see which games get to compete--after this long, there may be too many games
> for everyone to get on the ballot).
>
> 2. While I agree that the Wiki is an invaluable tool for the community and
> it would convenient to use it for the competition, I think it is important
> to make sure that game submission and voting can both be done without
> membership to the Wiki. I am assuming that we will get mentions on
> Looneylabs.com and Wunderland.com, so no doubt there will be a good number
> of potential voters who want to participate, but not enough to sign up for
> something. There should be an email option as well for anything that
> requires membership to the Wiki.
>
> 3. Once or twice a year is, in my opinion, more preferable than quarterly.
> I don't think every game made in the time frame should even be allowed on
> the ballot, necessarily. The Icehouse Null Game was in the first
> competition--how? Fewer competitions a year will increase the average
> quality of the games.
>
> 4. I strongly disagree with adding prize support to the competition. The
> traditional "prize" of having your game recognized on likely printed is good
> enough. A Crystal Caste set would be enough motivation to get someone to
> cheat, and even a set of ZPIPs or a fancy piecenik set add something to the
> game that I'm not sure is proper. If it were a Looney-supported prize--say,
> off-coloured pyramids or some cash--I may feel different, because then it
> could be more in the line of reimbursement for printing rights.
>
> 5. I very much like the idea of a dual-format. This is in line with what I
> was suggesting earlier about having a Treehouse-centric ballot and a
> separate open ballot. This time the themed format would be Treehouse, and
> next time it could be Volcano caps, or tarot cards, or whatever. For all the
> reasons you mentioned, especially fostering creativity in games, I think it
> is a fantastic idea.
>
>
> James
>
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