[Icehouse] Four-house Zendo

Subhan Tindall subhan.michael at gmail.com
Fri Jun 16 19:23:44 EDT 2006


On 6/16/06, Andrew Plotkin <erkyrath at eblong.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Christopher Hickman wrote:
>
> >> "Contains at least one vertical piece in your favorite color" is OK
> >> if everyone is OK with player-specific metarules, and the favorite
> >> colors of all players are well-known.
> >
> > No.  Spock doesn't know players' favorite colors.  You can only base rules
> > on objectively observable characteristics of koans.
>
> That's not a clear diagnosis. The actual problem is that "*your*" favorite
> color is illegal; Spock doesn't know who is the guesser at any given
> moment! A rule has to come out the same for everybody.
>
> If the favorite colors of the four players are red, green, green, and
> chartreuse -- and the Master knows this -- it would be valid for him to
> formulate a rule as "Contains a piece in the favorite color of one of
> these four people." Of course the players will wind up guessing "Contains
> a red piece or green piece", which is equivalent (lacking chartreuse
> pyramids). And it would be illegal for the Master to add "blue" to the
> valid list, if I happened to sit down at the table in mid-game.
This would only be a valid rule if ALL the players knew each other's
favorite colors.
>
> --Z
>
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