[Icehouse] Ikkozendo - Single-Stash Zendo
Carol Townsend
carol.townsend at gmail.com
Wed Dec 20 15:07:52 EST 2006
I was about to post my idea for a name, but realized that this might be
going beyond the scope of this mailing list - and might work better on the
"Something" list.
For what it's worth, I'm posting my response over there.
Carol
On 12/20/06, James Hazelton <jameshazelton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like "Komakai Zendo" as well. However, if you're going the One route,
> there are some finer points. Japanese counting is really complicated, and
> you use different words depending on the shape and nature of the object
> counted (similar to how in English you have to say "one sheet of paper",
> instead of just "one paper"). For this reason, Ipponzendo would be more
> accurate, because it references the cylindrical shape of the tube. Using
> "ikko" would imply playing Zendo with only one pyramid.
>
> Even so, I think Komakai Zendo has a better ring to it than anything else
> so far. I could definitely see myself answering "Komakai Zendo!" to the
> inevitable question, "What do we play next?"
>
> 細かい禅道
>
> On 12/20/06, David Artman <david at davidartman.com> wrote:
> >
> > RE Chinese--d'oh! That's a bummer. OK, I need the word for "small" in
> > Japanese.
> > ...komakai, tezema, semai, chiisai, puchi
> >
> > I like "Komakai Zendo" the best of those, because of the sound and its
> > similarity
> > to kamikazi (perverse, yes).
> >
> > But what if we explore the word "one," which is an even more accurate
> > descriptor
> > or modifier?
> > ...ichi, ikko, bou, hitotsu, wan, issun
> >
> > I like "Ikkozendo" because ikko implies "fragment" as well as "one."
> > (It's also
> > "the first beat of a war drum?!" Maybe because it's the "one" firxst
> > step that
> > synchronizes marching troups?) Refer to:
> > http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html
> >
> > RE differences between "single-stash" and "Treehouse stash": sure, they
> > are not
> > equivalent. In fact, one is a subclass of the other! :)
> >
> > When (if) I get to revise the wiki entry, I will be more explicit. BUT,
> > the point
> > is somewhat moot for a few reasons:
> >
> > 1) New players at which this game is targetted don't have full stashes
> > and can't
> > get them (easily--they can at LL, of course). Thus, in the context of a
> > demoed
> > or an introductory game, "single-stash" is going to be functionally
> > equivalent to
> > "Treehouse stash" as that's what folks will have and begin with, most
> > likely.
> >
> > 2) One could certainly play Ikkozendo with a monochrome stash; one only
> > loses color
> > as a relationship. Thus, the rules-as-written have no real assertions of
> > the nature
> > of the single stash; and so my follow-up reference to Treehouse WRT the
> > wiki isn't
> > a "red herring" or anything. It's just that there are more relationships
> > possible
> > with a Treehouse stash than there are with a monochrome stash--both of
> > which are
> > members of the superset called "single-stash." ;)
> >
> > But I will be explicit, when I revise online. The problem with lists for
> > stuff like
> > this is there's no going back, only forward, so there's this
> > embarrassing record of
> > the bumps along the way toward "tight" rules write-ups on the wiki.
> > *blush*
> >
> > Thanks for reading and helping me tune it up!
> > David Artman
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