[Icehouse] Ubervolcano?
Carol Townsend
carol.townsend at gmail.com
Sun Dec 3 10:26:33 EST 2006
doh! You're right - they are 5x5. Need to get the glasses cleaned! :)
On 12/3/06, TheLoneGoldfish <thelonegoldfish at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Umm... I'm pretty sure all the images I put up are 5x5 boards. the links
> again are:
>
> http://sharperkelp.blogspot.com/index.html
> http://sharperkelp.blogspot.com/2006/12/volcano-board-setup.html
> http://sharperkelp.blogspot.com/2006/12/volcano-safe-opening-move.html
>
>
> Oh yeah mega-volcano, that reminds me of my other question: is there any
> way while playing a game of mega-volcano to avoid having the first player
> take the big white? If not, the whole "any player with all 3 whites wins"
> rule seems a little skewed toward the starting player.
>
>
> I'm still trying to mathematically prove/disprove that in a regular
> volcano game, you can make any move if you have 5 caps on the board, given
> the preceding eruption was legal (this comes into play because there's a
> setup that would make for any move to cause an eruption, but you cannot get
> to that position by causing an eruption)
>
> -Evan
>
>
> On 12/3/06, Carol Townsend <carol.townsend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm not on Blogger, so I couldn't post my reply there, but your
> > starting setup looked odd to me. Which is OK, but I'm used to having all the
> > caps starting on the diagonal.
> >
> > And not to be picky or anything, but that's not a "Volcano" set up -
> > that's a Megavolcano (6x6) set up. And from what I remember, there really
> > is no "standard" set up for Megavolcano - you just put the caps on top of
> > the red nests wherever they might be.
> >
> > But where the caps are at to start with is sometimes less of an issue - because to me, the
> > person who can control cap movement (move the caps all over the board
> > without any eruptions) is the master Volcano player.
> >
> > has anyone else tried the "caps go away when they land in the dirt?"
> > variant? That sounds cool!
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> > On 12/3/06, TheLoneGoldfish <thelonegoldfish at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael's idea sounds neat. I'll assume that dropping a cap to bare
> > > dirt counts as your move though (else it will be a rather sudden game of
> > > lemmings at the end).
> > >
> > > As for the 5x5x5 board, umm... It seems like a neat idea, but would be
> > > really hard to visualize moves (and I already have a friend that takes a
> > > half hour on a normal 3d board). Now if you could get some magnetic pyramids
> > > and play on the faces of a cube... that I think would be neat. (or, use two
> > > sets of 3 player martian chess boards... except that would be 4x4 instead of
> > > 5x5).
> > >
> > > Other ideas/questions I've been having:
> > > Has anyone devised an opening move whereby the second player does not
> > > get 2 pyramids? I havn't proven it yet, but I feel with 5 pyramids you can
> > > make a move from any position you wish, no matter what the initial setup
> > > is...
> > >
> > > Hmm... actually. let me see. I may have one, but I havn't stared at it
> > > on a board so umm... it may not work out. (opens OOo Draw, wishing he had a
> > > scanner instead) Instead of attaching, I think I'll just throw it up on a
> > > blogger post.
> > >
> > > http://sharperkelp.blogspot.com/2006/12/volcano-safe-opening-move.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's it for now,
> > > -Evan
> > >
> >
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