[Fluxx] Re: Fluxx Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1

Mon Apr 9 12:18:39 EDT 2007

I understand the confusion... "anyone" could technically mean that if you
find another player with less keepers than you, then you have "more keepers
than anyone." However, in basically all contexts of English speaking, "I
have more than anyone" means "I have the most." Just like if someone said "I
am better than anyone" you would think they were saying "I am the best," not
"There is someone out there whom I am better than."

Interestingly enough, if it said "if anyone else has fewer keepers than
you," instead of "if you have more keepers than anyone else," then it would
mean the other thing.

-Gendo

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> From: Rosa Contreras <minniedaisy_love2 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Fluxx] Rich and Poor bonus
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> It seems clear to me. I mean it does say "If you have more/fewer keepers
> than anyone else..." meaning that if you are the one that has the most or
> fewer keepers then you are the one that draws the extra card. I think the
> word "anyone" is refering to anyone in the group that is playing, and if you
> just look at their keepers then you can clearly tell who has the most or the
> fewest keepers. I do not see how this can be confusing?
>
> > From: adross at att.net> To: fluxx at lists.looneylabs.com> Subject: Re:
> [Fluxx] Rich and Poor bonus> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:52:59 +0000> >
> -------------- Original message from "Daniel W. Johnson" <
> panoptes at iquest.net>: -------------- > > At 07:47 -0500 2007-03-25,
> Melissa Parish wrote: > > >My husband (Ryan) and I had a minor argument last
> night about Rich > > >and Poor bonus, so I thought I'd ask the people who
> know more about > > >such things. > > > > > >The pictures at the top clearly
> say "Most Keepers" and "Fewest > > >Keepers", but the text at the bottom is
> less clear. "If you have > > >more/fewer keepers than anyone else..." > > >
> > The problem is that the word "any" is inherently ambiguous. Consider > >
> the following examples: > > > > "Anyone here can operate this equipment." >
> > > > "Can anyone here operate this equipment?" > > ------------> > I redid
> my Rich Bonus and Poor Bonus onto Fluxx Blanxx so that they now say "If you
> are the one player with the most Keepers.
> .." and "If you are the one player with the fewest Keepers...".>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:07:55 -0400
> From: "Chris Lowell" <jingleddr at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxx] Rich and Poor bonus
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> If you wanted to be correct in logic terms, it could be worded "If you
> have
> more/fewer Keepers than each other player...." but a little common-sense
> thinking (even if it isn't 100% spelled out in the wording) and "spirit of
> the rules" would lead to the intention of the rule and how it is meant to
> be
> played.
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> On 4/8/07, Rosa Contreras <minniedaisy_love2 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  It seems clear to me. I mean it does say "If you have more/fewer
> keepers
> > than anyone else..." meaning that if you are the one that has the most
> or
> > fewer keepers then you are the one that draws the extra card. I think
> the
> > word "anyone" is refering to anyone in the group that is playing, and if
> you
> > just look at their keepers then you can clearly tell who has the most or
> the
> > fewest keepers. I do not see how this can be confusing?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > > From: adross at att.net
> > > To: fluxx at lists.looneylabs.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Fluxx] Rich and Poor bonus
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:52:59 +0000
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message from "Daniel W. Johnson" <
> > panoptes at iquest.net>: --------------
> > > > At 07:47 -0500 2007-03-25, Melissa Parish wrote:
> > > > >My husband (Ryan) and I had a minor argument last night about Rich
> > > > >and Poor bonus, so I thought I'd ask the people who know more about
> > > > >such things.
> > > > >
> > > > >The pictures at the top clearly say "Most Keepers" and "Fewest
> > > > >Keepers", but the text at the bottom is less clear. "If you have
> > > > >more/fewer keepers than anyone else..."
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that the word "any" is inherently ambiguous. Consider
> > > > the following examples:
> > > >
> > > > "Anyone here can operate this equipment."
> > > >
> > > > "Can anyone here operate this equipment?"
> > > > ------------
> > >
> > > I redid my Rich Bonus and Poor Bonus onto Fluxx Blanxx so that they
> now
> > say "If you are the one player with the most Keepers..." and "If you are
> the
> > one player with the fewest Keepers...".
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