[Fluxx] Re: Experiment about tactics in Fluxx
Mike Hargreaves
Mhargreaves at bmsworldmission.org
Thu Apr 6 05:11:50 EDT 2006
Just one question -
How many of the none random wins were achieved off of the random players
card play?
Hey I'm playing devil's advocate here - but if a random play wins the
game for the tactical player then its still a matter of randomness to
determine who wins. As an example if both players were playing
tactically one would not play THE BRAIN NO TV if they had the TV in hand
and the other player has The Brain in play, a random choice here would
give the game to the owner of The Brain through non-tactical play.
Even if playing The Brain whilst The TV is not in play is considered
tactically sound there's little chance that anyone else's tactical play
would result in a win for the holder of the Brain.
Mike Hargreaves
Multimedia Developer
BMS World Mission
01235 517627
http://www.bmsworldmission.org
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~ I've conducted a scientific study in response to one of the
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~ quantify the amount of effect that decision making has on
~ Fluxx. So I played 200 2-player games of Fluxx, with one
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~ completely at random. I even measured the amount of first
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~ > criticisms
~ of Fluxx... that it is too chaotic for strategy or even
~ tactical decision making. I wanted to quantify the amount of
~ effect that decision making has on Fluxx. So I played 200
~ 2-player games of Fluxx, with one player playing normally and
~ the other player playing completely at random. I even
~ measured the amount of first player advantage. The results
~ are posted at
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~ >
~ > http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/105929
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