[Eco] Salt water as fuel? Whew Who!

[TVTom]

On 9/11/07, Christopher Hickman <tophu at mac.com> wrote:
>
> > The radio frequency actually weakens bonds holding
> > together the constituents of salt water -- sodium
> > chloride, hydrogen and oxygen -- and releases the
> > hydrogen, which, once ignited, burns continuously
> > when exposed to the RF energy field.
>
> But what provides the energy for the RF generator?
> I'm concerned about the efficiency of this.  I hope it pans out.


Tom: Yep, that may be an insurmountable problem.
Rocket scientist John Cooper explained:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John W. Cooper <john.w.cooper at nasa.gov>
> Date: Sep 12, 2007 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? Whew Who!
> To: TVTom <televisionthomas at gmail.com>
>
> [my work account isn't on the ECO list, so I respond to you]
>
> I don't think this will fit in a Star Trek episode. The RF is
> separating hydrogen out of the salt water. the energy required to do
> that (through radiant RF) is more than the energy you get from
> "burning" the hydrogen. Burning essentially binds the hydrogen back to
> oxygen atoms, releasing heat and light equal to the amount of radiant
> energy that happened to split the molecules in the first place. There
> is no extra potential energy being stored or released (such as the
> thousands of years of solar power at work behind oil before you burn
> gasoline, or the millions of years of star fusion behind uranium before
> you fission it). Good luck trying to beat the the conservation of
> energy law. Better find those dilithium crystals (direct products of
> the Big Bang [TM]).
>
> This reminds me of the compressed air car engine scheme. People need to
> remember that in this universe energy is never free, and simply
> transferring from one kind of energy to another does not ever give you
> more -- in fact usually there is a lot of residual energy lost in the
> transference.
>
> :-j
>


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